Kinesiology, a clients perspective: Linda

This interview is part of a series of interviews by Dr Anna Rolfes as part of the article Kinesiology, a clients perspective

Linda is a 36-year-old naturopath and young mother who had kinesiology sessions for food allergies and different other health problems.

Anna: Linda, can you recall the sessions with me? What was the benefit that we had muscle testing in our healing sessions? Could we just have done it with intuition?

What is kinesiology giving in the session?

Linda: Right. I found with kinesiology that my body or my system knows the answers and that kinesiology was a way of accessing these, bypassing in some ways the conscious part of me.

Your energy as the practitioner and the muscle tests assisted me to see areas, to see blockages and then to check or to use kinesiology to work on these areas.

Anna: So, do you feel you know intuitively the answer but your mind is judging the answer? If something comes up in the muscle test it will help you to be better with your intuition?

Linda: Yeah, yeah. I feel my body knows the answers but I can’t access them due to not just judging but clouding them. There is interference, emotional, all sorts of other stuff affecting that.

When I’m with you, doing a session with muscle testing, I feel more intuitive.

Like, you might, say, look at an area of stress and you might muscle test and say: “This doesn’t give your body stress; there’s something else”, and automatically I feel my thyroid, or the area under stress.

Then we work on it using the muscle testing to look how we’re going to fix it.

Anna: Right. So would you say the muscle test guides you? Where you have to look at?

Linda: Yeah, guides and checks, because there’s a few times I’ve said: “Throat” or said: “Right leg” and the muscle test would reaffirm that.

So after a few sessions I found now I’m more likely to just say what first comes into my mind and it tends to be right. It’s developed my intuition by doing sessions.

Where at the beginning I was a little bit probably nervous, too, a little bit unsure of myself whether I could feel what was going on, now I can go into a session and just say whatever comes up, even if it’s silly, and then the muscle test can reaffirm that or lead us in a different way of working or …

Anna: Interesting. It has strengthened your intuition?

Linda: Yes.

Anna: Oh, right. So how does it feel for you to be muscle tested?

L: It wasn’t new for me, because I’ve been muscle tested before, with a chiropractor up here when I was pregnant, and also in Melbourne. It wasn’t new for me, so I am quite confident and comfortable with muscle testing and things like that.

Anna: It was not a threat or a…?

L: No, not at all, except the threat of knowing something I wasn’t ready to challenge yet. Knowing that things would probably come up in muscle testing which I would not feel comfortable with. Knowing that maybe I couldn’t hide something if I wanted to.

Anna: So what sense do you have from that procedure of being muscle tested? What do you think it is?

L: Energy, sure. I can feel that during the session. I find it incredible because there’s no control over the outcome of a test. Even if I wanted to tighten that muscle doing a muscle test, it just loses its power. So there’s something that I feel is a bit beyond me, in a way, or beyond my consciousness. I don’t know what sense I could put to it.

Anna: So you really wanted to have a strong muscle and it just doesn’t do it?

Linda: Yeah, even if I just try and keep it strong or go against you, even if I wanted to rig it, so to speak, or to really go against it, if it was a ‘no’ or whatever, the muscle just weakens.

I lose the strength, and I don’t know what that is.

Anna: Yeah. Well, that’s why we’re investigating it. It’s good that you say that. So would you say muscle testing helps that you are more aware of yourself and your body?

Linda: Yeah, more trusting.

Anna: Your own intuition, more trusting?

vYeah, more trusting of it. I think I was aware that I had intuition in other things or with other people.

But through the muscle testing and through the sessions, I put more trust in that intuition.

I felt it was always there. But just trusting it a bit more that it was right.

Anna: Oh right. Do you think it has enhanced communication with yourself, with your inner healing or whatever you call it, the healing guide?

Linda: Yeah, definitely. I had problems with my neck lately and I was really trying to be in touch with feeling my body and feeling my gravity. Mind you, all gravity’s out a bit.

Whereas before I had sessions with you, I would tend to just go to someone and give the problem to them. You know, hand it over to them.

Anna: Ah, right. So muscle testing… what you say…

Linda: Now I’m being more responsible. I’ll do my meditation and different things and ask for the guides, as you were saying, and take a bit more control, knowing that the answers are there.

Anna: In you?

Linda: With the muscle testing I find you don’t come and say: “Do this, do this”. You’re asking me what to do, so I find the muscle testing has given me more control.

Even though you’ve done medicine and know a lot, you don’t use that information to impose it on me. You’re just asking me what I want and giving me options. So that’s given me more faith in my…

Anna: Healing?

Linda: Yeah.

Anna: Oh, that’s an interesting aspect. I haven’t really thought about that. 

Linda: So that’s what I think of it, and that’s why I’m taking a bit more control now.

Anna: That might frighten people away, also.

Linda: Yes.

Anna: Those who don’t want that aspect of shared responsibility.

Linda: Yes. And I was saying to the chiropractor now where I’m feeling things are out of balance and that I’m working through emotional things and da da da da, whereas before I tended to not say much, even particularly with doctors.

Probably doing naturopathy, or maybe that’s why I did naturopathy, I could never say: “This is what I feel it is”, or “I don’t know, I’d like to try something else”, or I’d just take the script and walk out feeling disappointed.

Anna: Right.

Linda: Whereas now I feel a bit stronger.

Anna: And the muscle testing was a procedure which has helped you with that?

Linda: Yeah, it’s helped because it’s shown me that I have control of my own health, because it’s not you that was prescribing something or not you that was saying: “Take this”.

Instead of saying: “You need a homeopathic”, you would find out: “Do I need a homeopathic” asking my muscles.

If the muscles turned strong you would say: “Yes. What homeopathic, do you know?”, muscle test again. So you weren’t prescribing. Everything was asking me.

Anna: Yeah, yeah. When you look back to the sessions, what do you think, has muscle testing enhanced your communication with the therapist?

Would you have been able to communicate with me what we have talked through, through the sessions, when you look back, without having the muscle tests?

Linda: Oh, yeah. But I think it would have taken us a lot longer.

Anna: Yeah.

Linda: Right. And I don’t think that things would’ve come up in the same way. I first saw you about an anal fissure. Right?

Anna: Yeah.

Linda: I think we would’ve looked at more the physical aspect of it and da da da da da. Different things may have come up but I would not have thought to bring things up that were inappropriate, whereas…

Anna: Right, so it’s a judgement from the mind what is inappropriate.

Linda: Yes. Whereas, with the muscle testing, it may bring out things that don’t seem connected with the health problem but they are.

So, I think that we may have got somewhere, but it would’ve taken longer for a start, ‘cause muscle testing can get straight there, and we may have fixed things up in another way.

Anna: Interesting.

Linda: You know, I’m a little bit for herbs, homoeopathy, this works for me. It’s a matter of going a certain way about it. But I found through the muscle testing I saved a lot of time.

Anna: Right. ‘Cause through that, would you say you could shape the procedure individually or…?

Linda: I think it brings up things that a therapist may not think to ask.

Anna: Right. 

Linda: There may not be anything obvious about me not feeling myself, say, me not being Linda. It’s common with having a baby but, still, the therapist may not think to ask those things.

Anna: So that’s the holistic concept behind muscle testing as well, which you know is there.

Linda: Right.

Anna: What’s your opinion about the result of the muscle test, so when something comes up in a muscle test, do you trust it, or is there, you know…?

Linda: I trust it.

Anna: Is there also sometimes conflict with your mind, or…?

Linda: No, I haven’t found conflict with my mind. Because everything that’s come up I sort of knew, felt that I knew, but hadn’t confronted it, or didn’t want it to be an issue. I find muscle testing quite confronting.

As I said before, it’s threatening in that way, that you’re there and quite vulnerable in a way when you’re exposing yourself. I find, once you relax and I’m with you in a session, I am quite vulnerable.

Anna: Yeah. Is there something else you want to add to the procedure of muscle testing? Just recall when you come in the room to have sessions with me or another therapists who uses muscle testing. What’s your anticipation, how do you feel in that regard? 

Linda: Well, I feel, as I said before, it’s not as much going to the therapist and receiving stuff, it’s more going in to access my truth, or a way of going in to talk to myself, to find out what’s the matter.

And I don’t know what that self is.

Anna: Very interesting. That’s a good way how to put it really, isn’t it?

Linda: Whereas I don’t, even though I see you as a qualified person and everything else, I feel when I’m going there, you’re just a guide or a catalyst, ‘cause you’re asking me all the time. You never say: “Do this” or “Do that”.

Anna: So it gives a refined communication really. Would you also say you can access my knowledge better through that, because I can offer it to you better?

Linda: Yep, yep. I think with the muscle testing you can get there quicker. For instance, when we first started we were looking at the pelvic floor.

With your knowledge of anatomy and stuff you could access the different muscles that I needed to work on quickly through the muscle tests.

And I think probably your knowledge helps us access things a bit quicker, ‘cause you bypass a lot of things when you’re trying to get in there.

So if you’d just started this and didn’t have that knowledge you could flounder around for a day, whereas your knowledge combined with the muscle testing is accessing it quickly.

Anna: Oh yeah. Good. Do you have something else? What else could you say about it, when you think about the sessions you had with me and just the technique of muscle testing… using the technique of muscle testing?

Linda: Um. The technique. Sometimes I feel a little bit confused after a while, if I’m feeling tired, but then it tends to work out anyway and I think that if you have an unclear reading, you then re-do it with the legs or whatever, so the readings are usually pretty clear.

But sometimes, yeah, I feel a little bit tired and a bit… wondering whether I should concentrate on the muscle testing or just on where ever we’re working on.

Sometimes I think: “Should I just totally forget about my arms and what you’re doing, or should I focus in on it?” But I think I tend to space out a bit.

Anna: It still works, and that’s the beauty about it, it still works.

Linda: Yeah, so I tend to go off in a relaxed state. You can put me in a situation where I can access myself. I’m a little bit wary of the user of muscle testing in some ways.

I don’t think anyone can do muscle testing, and I’m a bit like that with Vega as well.

It’s just a machine between two people. I think muscle testing can bypass the machine. But I think it’s in the user. 

Anna: Can you recall your first experience with muscle tests?

Linda: Yeah, when was I first muscle tested? I did a detoxing, a six months detox, and then learnt how to do it. I could show you that, actually.

We faced each other, and one person pushed the other’s muscle. So I learnt how to do it, and we just thought it was great.

I did it with a friend and we worked out everything—time of birth and…, you know. So what did I think about it at first? I just thought it was accessing the stuff.

Anna: Thank you for the interview.

By Dr Anna Rolfes

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